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zedders posted on 24 set 2022 #21

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wjl wrote:
@zedders - your posts are double somehow...

It's my mouse, it's started doing double clicks lately, it's driving me crazy! Sorry if it does it again with this post!

BB6 posted on 24 set 2022 #22

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zedders wrote:
But win10 is solid, never had a problem,

Thanks. That might be a good option. I can get a Microsoft Surface with core m3 processor, 4gb ram and Windows 10 Pro for £40. If used just for music, does anyone know if it would run Studio 1 or such like OK? Thanks for all the help everybody, I'll get there eventually :)

wjl posted on 25 set 2022 #23

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zedders wrote:
But win10 is solid, never had a problem,

Thanks. That might be a good option. I can get a Microsoft Surface with core m3 processor, 4gb ram and Windows 10 Pro for £40. If used just for music, does anyone know if it would run Studio 1 or such like OK? Thanks for all the help everybody, I'll get there eventually :)

Hey Peter,

I've looked at https://www.presonus.com/products/studio-one/tech-specs - and while the 2.5GB of hard drive space don't sound that much, a Core i3 and 4GB of RAM are described as the minimum there - and I don't know if they mean the desktop Core i3 (4 cores) or the mobile one (2 cores) which the Surface book might have... so spending money on something which just fulfils the basic requirements? Well that's up to you of course...

( that said, for most of our titles here you don't need that many tracks. I like to mix with single HD tracks instead of ready-made .mp3 mixes, but sometimes it's still just a handful, three tracks for instance like you can see in my "In Time" video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc0n24_KXt8 - but making videos is another thing, I probably wouldn't try that on machines which are too slow... also, in a DAW like you see there you can put a compressor just on the bass, something that hardware recorders also won't be able to do. so another plus point for doing it on computers...)

You said you're using MX Linux, that's just like Debian with an older init system instead of systemd if I'm informed correctly. I don't know about the hardware specs of your machine, but maybe it's even more capable compared to a Surface from Microsoft? If yes, the Glen, a farmer from the midwest of the USA if I remember correctly, might have the solution for you - he based his AV Linux on MX, and wrote one of the best manuals about the howtos of it, see here: http://bandshed.net/pdf/AVL-MXE-User-Manual.pdf (or http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/ for his software).

Hope that helps?
Wolfgang

BB6 posted on 25 set 2022 #24

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wjl wrote:
I've looked at https://www.presonus.com/products/studio-one/tech-specs

Found those today too and just having the basics won't be any good long term, even if it did run on that Surface.

that said, for most of our titles here you don't need that many tracks. I like to mix with single HD tracks instead of ready-made .mp3 mixes, but sometimes it's still just a handful, three tracks for instance like you can see in my "In Time" video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc0n24_KXt8 -

Great video. And nice to see your Ardour in action. One thing I hadn't thought through at all was the wikiloops tracks and remixing a few single HDs. That would be difficult on a hardware mixer, if not impossible. However, searching for "easiest DAW" brings up several lists and some with good demos and tutorials, but none of them seem easy! Only Audacity tutorial seems aimed at vocals. All others presume I want to use synths, drums and instruments and seem built around that. So there I have the complication problem again. It's easy when you know how but it takes so long to know how that I might be dead before I get control of the DAW.

also, in a DAW like you see there you can put a compressor just on the bass, something that hardware recorders also won't be able to do. so another plus point for doing it on computers...)

Most now have compressor and other fx that can be specified for each channel.

You said you're using MX Linux, that's just like Debian with an older init system instead of systemd if I'm informed correctly.

There's lots of reasons for not using systemd, that's why I moved from xubuntu - for futureproofing.

I don't know about the hardware specs of your machine, but maybe it's even more capable compared to a Surface from Microsoft? If yes, the Glen, a farmer from the midwest of the USA if I remember correctly, might have the solution for you - he based his AV Linux on MX, and wrote one of the best manuals about the howtos of it, see here: http://bandshed.net/pdf/AVL-MXE-User-Manual.pdf (or http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/ for his software).

That's the MX Linux for music that I tried before (forgot it was called AV Linux). I'd prefer not to double boot as well. Complications! I might have to grit my teeth and go with Ardour.

Hope that helps?
Wolfgang

Wolfgang, you're a star. I really appreciate your help. Although I'm quite experienced with computer and software, it still does my head in that there's so much to have to keep learning because things keep changing so often (and usually not for the better, imho). If the world was more like wikiloops with co-operation rather than competition, doing it for fun rather than for profit...
Many thanks. <3

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wjl posted on 25 set 2022 #25

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You're welcome Peter :)

If you could add the https://kx.studio/Repositories to your MX Linux ones, that would probably help with setting up Jack and everything. It brings for instance a program called 'Cadence' for building bridges between all the sound-related software in Linux, like Alsa and Jack - so that you can have real-time audio with Jack (for music recordings), and at the same time play videos with sound from Youtube (with Pulseaudio).

I have it starting automatically on my Debian operating system, so I'll attach a screenshot of it showing the Pulseaudio bridge.

Like I said, don't ever hesitate to ask in case of questions - we'll all try to help, no matter if it's Windows, Linux, Macs, or anything :)

Cheers,
Wolfgang

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BB6 posted on 25 set 2022 #26

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Thank you, gang of friendly wolves, I'll do that shortly. I just discovered quite a few Ardour tutorials. Strange that I never thought of searching for them before, perhaps it was because I didn't know which way to go. So hopefully I won't have to take too much of your time up in the future, but it's great to know I can turn to you if I get stuck. Have a great day, Wolfgang. Thank you. :) <3

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