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Setup for mixing with headphones

LittleWing posted on 8 mag 2020 #21
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Cantaloopo posted on 8 mag 2020 #22
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you did well, this is a dangerous virus ... B)
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Cantaloopo posted on 8 mag 2020 #23
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only to get back to the headline of the thread ...
I have many headphones, of course, mainly AKG and Beyerdynamic, mostly half open. They are used by musicians when doing overdubs in the studio. When recording my own stuff (with click or for Wickiloops etc.) I prefer the audio technica M70x. They sound great, featuring the bass a bit, but there is no sound leakage in front of a vocal mike.
For mixing I rely only on my AKG K812 reference headphones. They are quite expensive, but they correlate wonderful with the near field monitors Klein+Hummel 120 (now Neumann KH120) and the Auratone cubes (broadband speakers) I use. Everything is connected to the SPL 2Control, which allows adjustable crossfeed simulation. Something I rarely need, because there's nearly no significant difference between the K812 and the K+H speakers. And I am not always mixing everything "in the box" - when doing productions for classical music, I use some hardware units to pimp the stereo mix like a custom made stereo Pultec style tube EQ (still unbeatably) and a Gyratec 9 stereo tube preamp (which is also great for straight stereo recording in high resolution, directly recorded as digital streaming onto flash card. Best sounding results one can achieve! )
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wjl posted on 9 mag 2020 #24
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While Sonarworks offers a program called "Systemwide" for Windows and for MacOS, but not for Linux (yet), I've just made one - and described the process with a few screenshots in an article on my blog:

https://wolfgang.lonien.de/2020/05/how-to-make-a-systemwide-sonarworks-on-linux-the-easy-way/

Hope this is useful for some of you,
Cheers,
Wolfgang
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kimbo posted on 9 mag 2020 #25
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Pretty much what i did in logic...took the sonarworks curves and recreated them in logics own output eq section.
Though not applicable system-wide, logic is pretty much all i use the machine to listen on.
Cantaloopo posted on 9 mag 2020 #26
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wjl wrote:
While Sonarworks offers a program called "Systemwide" for Windows and for MacOS, but not for Linux (yet), I've just made one - and described the process with a few screenshots in an article on my blog:

https://wolfgang.lonien.de/2020/05/how-to-make-a-systemwide-sonarworks-on-linux-the-easy-way/

Hope this is useful for some of you,
Cheers,
Wolfgang


Well, you seem to be a cumputer buffo. I'm not much into this, I must confess, as I am a relict of the analogue recording world.
One basic thing I don't understand: This Sonarworks program equals out headphones and speakers, so they all might sound the same, right? But in reference to which acoustic circumstances, samples or signals or whatever? I mean, my speakers are measured in and adjusted exactly to the acoustical (control)room situation. Only then I can be shure that what I hear is correct concerning frequencies and panning etc
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wjl posted on 9 mag 2020 #27
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Cantaloopo wrote:
One basic thing I don't understand: This Sonarworks program equals out headphones and speakers, so they all might sound the same, right? But in reference to which acoustic circumstances, samples or signals or whatever? I mean, my speakers are measured in and adjusted exactly to the acoustical (control)room situation. Only then I can be shure that what I hear is correct concerning frequencies and panning etc


Correct. For speakers you'll need your own measurements, so you'll need the "Studio" version of the software and a microphone to get the signal from your setup. Warren Huart explains it here, where he's measuring his 3" iLoud Micro Monitors:

[youtube]jTVItSxRm6A[/youtube]

Of course it helps if the room is treated already - you can't use that product against "standing waves" and such...

Hope that helps,
Wolfgang
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Cantaloopo posted on 9 mag 2020 #28
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wjl wrote:
Cantaloopo wrote:
One basic thing I don't understand: This Sonarworks program equals out headphones and speakers, so they all might sound the same, right? But in reference to which acoustic circumstances, samples or signals or whatever? I mean, my speakers are measured in and adjusted exactly to the acoustical (control)room situation. Only then I can be shure that what I hear is correct concerning frequencies and panning etc


Correct. For speakers you'll need your own measurements, so you'll need the "Studio" version of the software and a microphone to get the signal from your setup. Warren Huart explains it here, where he's measuring his 3" iLoud Micro Monitors:

[youtube]jTVItSxRm6A[/youtube]

Of course it helps if the room is treated already - you can't use that product against "standing waves" and such...

Hope that helps,
Wolfgang


Yes, thanks! Of course I know about the process of measuring in studio monitors, did it a few times with ARC2. I misunderstood your description of the Sonarworks program, thought it would not require a measurement microphone and was wondering how this should work ... sorry:|
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wjl posted on 2 mar 2022 #29
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To revive an older thread about headphones and their correction:

If you can't afford Sonarworks, or if like me you're on Linux, and they don't make it for that OS anymore, there's a sound engineer on reddit who has a list of correction curve eq settings for all kinds of headphones, together with a howto for all operating systems.

It's here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/list_of_presets

I have tried it with easyeffects on Arch Linux, works very well. On Debian you'd find that under its older name pulseeffects. That would be for a system-wide implementation, of course you could also use these on your monitoring bus in the DAW of your choice.

Hope that helps,
Wolfgang

P.S.: to listen with headphone correction on Android phones, try Wavelet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pittvandewitt.wavelet&hl=en_US&gl=US

Edit: made a screenshot from my settings in easyeffects on Arch (they will be different from the ones you'll need, just to illustrate it a bit here):

[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51912395792_7a2db8bc30_c_d.jpg[/img]

Edit No #2, from Friday March 25th, 2022:

Just received a headphone correction file from Sonarworks which was for the - not supported - OS of my choice (Linux), and for their older version of "Reference 4" which I'm still using. So I thought I'd give them a proper shoutout on my blog as well: https://wolfgang.lonien.de/2022/03/a-big-thank-you-to-sonarworks/
eothen posted on 28 apr 2022 #30
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I always mix and master with headphones (Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro) because my studio room isn't acoustically treated. Once you know your gear perfectly (regardless of wheter you use monitors or headphones) it's all about training your ears and practice.

I also bought the Waves NX Virtual room plugin but I don't use it anymore. Due to the fact that I'm so used to the normal headphone sound this plugin is worthless for me.
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